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WVU454SS NATC Member Offline "There's no replacement for displacement" Posts: 473 Mathews, VA-Morgantown, WV Gender: NATC Membership #: 822	Re: New Guy with Build Questions Reply #16 - 03/23/09 at 19:35:24 PM sent. Dave
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Re: New Guy with Build Questions
Reply #17 - 03/23/09 at 19:52:01

VA454SS wrote on 03/23/09 at 10:10:22:

I run 12.40's with those terrible heads and sucky TBI Lips Sealed

Yeah , TBI and vortec's are the devil Lips Sealed

TOM

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VA454SS NATC Member Offline TBI Guinea Pig Posts: 3985 VA Gender:	Re: New Guy with Build Questions Reply #18 - 03/24/09 at 06:49:56 Busted Knuckles wrote on 03/23/09 at 17:45:44: wonder if I could run a pair of 454 throttle bodies for my 565? Don't see why not
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VA454SS NATC Member Offline TBI Guinea Pig Posts: 3985 VA Gender:	Re: New Guy with Build Questions Reply #19 - 03/24/09 at 09:47:39 Nasty-Z wrote on 03/23/09 at 19:52:01: Yeah , TBI and vortec's are the devil TOM That's what mama says. Actually, she pronounces it "Debil"
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Re: New Guy with Build Questions
Reply #20 - 03/24/09 at 09:55:18

I found some DRW hubs for my 1-ton rearend which will narrow it to 63.5" and I've found plenty of decent wheels up to 12" wide with 5" BS to push the tire just about to the inner fender. It only weighs about 125lbs more than the 454SS rearend and since it's a full floater, I can't lose an axle. It's not like I would be making enough power to break one anyway.
Holley makes a 4bbl throttle body that they claim is 950cfm...that might be worth looking into if I go with the big engine.
What are some good throttle body sites? I now know that there are folks making good power with 'em, my curiosity is really getting wound up...

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WVU454SS NATC Member Offline "There's no replacement for displacement" Posts: 473 Mathews, VA-Morgantown, WV Gender: NATC Membership #: 822	Re: New Guy with Build Questions Reply #21 - 03/24/09 at 09:58:49 Busted Knuckles wrote on 03/24/09 at 09:55:18: What are some good throttle body sites? www.454SS.com You wont find anyone else running faster with the TBI that's on our trucks, than the guys here. Dave
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Re: New Guy with Build Questions
Reply #22 - 03/24/09 at 10:50:55

WVU454SS wrote on 03/24/09 at 09:58:49:

www.454SS.com

You wont find anyone else running faster with the TBI that's on our trucks, than the guys here.

Dave

Well said

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1994 3500 Dually , 502 , 264HR , Edelbrock Injection
2006 Forest river-Sierra 37' 5th wheel
2004 Trailblazer LT Wife's ride
1998 GMC Jimmy (Headache on wheels)
1994 Pontiac Sunbird Wifes ride 2
1994 Buick Century "The work ride"
1993 K-3500 "Ex-diesel" 454/4L80E
1992 S-10 421 SBC/Tremec
1984 S-10 Blazer V-8 Conversion, solid axle swap
1980 Z-28 454/700R4
1979 C-30 Crew cab Dually 454
1977 Olds 98 Regency 403/700R4
1973 Nova (Race Car Someday)

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Re: New Guy with Build Questions
Reply #23 - 03/24/09 at 10:54:02

Busted Knuckles wrote on 03/24/09 at 09:55:18:

Holley makes a 4bbl throttle body that they claim is 950cfm...that might be worth looking into if I go with the big engine.

MikeN on here run's one of those

Would be nice to try one with an EBL .

TOM

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Calling an illegal alien an 'un documented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist.'

1994 3500 Dually , 502 , 264HR , Edelbrock Injection
2006 Forest river-Sierra 37' 5th wheel
2004 Trailblazer LT Wife's ride
1998 GMC Jimmy (Headache on wheels)
1994 Pontiac Sunbird Wifes ride 2
1994 Buick Century "The work ride"
1993 K-3500 "Ex-diesel" 454/4L80E
1992 S-10 421 SBC/Tremec
1984 S-10 Blazer V-8 Conversion, solid axle swap
1980 Z-28 454/700R4
1979 C-30 Crew cab Dually 454
1977 Olds 98 Regency 403/700R4
1973 Nova (Race Car Someday)

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Re: New Guy with Build Questions
Reply #24 - 03/24/09 at 11:31:05

So, who's the tuning guru here?
Are the throttle bodies from CFM-Tech worth the coin if I'm not going bigger than 496 with a street roller cam or will a stock piece do it with adjustable fuel pressure regulator? I assume a Victor Jr. or one of the new Weiand redesigned single plane intakes is the way to go since there's no need for dual plane with no carb?
Thanks for y'all's help, I'm glad I found this site!

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Re: New Guy with Build Questions
Reply #25 - 03/24/09 at 11:38:41

I would say the single plane of your choice. Currently I'm using an Edel MPFI conversion manifold with the TB on top and the injector holes in the intake are plugged. I've also run a low rise Holley St Dominator (the current version of this is dual plane).

Nasty-Z has run an old style Torker among others.

A gentleman here used to bore and sleeve TB's to a 2.2" bore, but he no longer does it.

Another trick to get more airflow is have the IAC open fully at WOT.

Truthfully, you'd probably get better tuning advice at TGO. Most of us are still cutting our teeth.

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VA454SS NATC Member Offline TBI Guinea Pig Posts: 3985 VA Gender:	Re: New Guy with Build Questions Reply #26 - 03/24/09 at 12:03:03 Busted Knuckles wrote on 03/24/09 at 11:31:05: new Weiand redesigned single plane Link?
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Busted Knuckles Overpost Offline Posts: 124 Lubbock, TX	Re: New Guy with Build Questions Reply #27 - 03/24/09 at 12:06:22 That intake has been out for a couple of years. They significantly extended the runners into the plenum and thickened 'em. It looks more like a small Super Victor more than a Victor Jr. I'll try to post the part number when I get a chance.
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VA454SS NATC Member Offline TBI Guinea Pig Posts: 3985 VA Gender:	Re: New Guy with Build Questions Reply #28 - 03/24/09 at 12:33:16 Team G?
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Re: New Guy with Build Questions
Reply #29 - 03/24/09 at 12:51:33

Busted Knuckles wrote on 03/24/09 at 11:31:05:

So, who's the tuning guru here?

VA454SS

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Busted Knuckles wrote on 03/24/09 at 11:31:05:

Are the throttle bodies from CFM-Tech worth the coin if I'm not going bigger than 496 with a street roller cam or will a stock piece do it with adjustable fuel pressure regulator?

Never used one personally , I among others have used the modded one that a member here has done , +/- 900 CFM

Busted Knuckles wrote on 03/24/09 at 11:31:05:

I assume a Victor Jr. or one of the new Weiand redesigned single plane intakes is the way to go since there's no need for dual plane with no carb?

Single plane is the way to go , I have tried a Low rise single plane Torker , High rise Torker , and a Team G , among others . If you are gonna tune it might as well get all the airflow you can

Just be careful of icing of the throttle blades when you start moving the TBI further from the manifold , TBI likes a heated plenum. Wink

Busted Knuckles wrote on 03/24/09 at 11:31:05:

Thanks for y'all's help, I'm glad I found this site!

Glad to have you , are you on FSC ?

TOM

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Calling an illegal alien an 'un documented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist.'

1994 3500 Dually , 502 , 264HR , Edelbrock Injection
2006 Forest river-Sierra 37' 5th wheel
2004 Trailblazer LT Wife's ride
1998 GMC Jimmy (Headache on wheels)
1994 Pontiac Sunbird Wifes ride 2
1994 Buick Century "The work ride"
1993 K-3500 "Ex-diesel" 454/4L80E
1992 S-10 421 SBC/Tremec
1984 S-10 Blazer V-8 Conversion, solid axle swap
1980 Z-28 454/700R4
1979 C-30 Crew cab Dually 454
1977 Olds 98 Regency 403/700R4
1973 Nova (Race Car Someday)

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